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	<title>Comments on: Google Ranking Sub-Pages Above Homepage: New Algo Update Hits UK Shores</title>
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		<title>By: Grumpy Old SEO</title>
		<link>http://www.themediaflow.com/2010/12/google-ranking-sub-pages-above-homepage-new-algo-update-hits-uk-shores/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Grumpy Old SEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 13:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting observation and one that makes sense from both Google&#039;s and the user experience point of view. But I would also point out that homepages still outperform inner pages for just about any competitive search term you can think of, including the alloy wheels example cited. In those cases, it&#039;s a better strategy to try (if possible) to include your target term in your homepage optimisation. You can still have the specialised inner page, but the homepage will outrank it 9 times out of 10, providing its been optimised for that phrase. Just my tuppence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting observation and one that makes sense from both Google&#8217;s and the user experience point of view. But I would also point out that homepages still outperform inner pages for just about any competitive search term you can think of, including the alloy wheels example cited. In those cases, it&#8217;s a better strategy to try (if possible) to include your target term in your homepage optimisation. You can still have the specialised inner page, but the homepage will outrank it 9 times out of 10, providing its been optimised for that phrase. Just my tuppence.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Bell</title>
		<link>http://www.themediaflow.com/2010/12/google-ranking-sub-pages-above-homepage-new-algo-update-hits-uk-shores/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 09:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure whether it is a small change in SERPs and will confirm as I check more sites.  But the main site that I had seen a change to inner-page has now reverted back to homepage, in line with the rest of the sites on the 1st page of listings.

Will be interesting to see the impact (presumably negative) on conversions if the homepage continues to be listed in place of the relevant inner page.

Is anyone else seeing a change in the listings ??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure whether it is a small change in SERPs and will confirm as I check more sites.  But the main site that I had seen a change to inner-page has now reverted back to homepage, in line with the rest of the sites on the 1st page of listings.</p>
<p>Will be interesting to see the impact (presumably negative) on conversions if the homepage continues to be listed in place of the relevant inner page.</p>
<p>Is anyone else seeing a change in the listings ??</p>
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		<title>By: Nichola</title>
		<link>http://www.themediaflow.com/2010/12/google-ranking-sub-pages-above-homepage-new-algo-update-hits-uk-shores/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>Nichola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 13:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi James,

This post sparked a few conversations with industry friends and many also reported seeing the changes pre-December 20th. Piecing it together is seems to have been something of a phased roll-out (as many are), by sector. Interesting that you noticed a difference with single token keywords. In fact that&#039;s really interesting... do you happen to recall any of the other single token queries?

One other point - this hasn&#039;t rolled out in all sectors. Gaming serps don&#039;t seem to have changed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi James,</p>
<p>This post sparked a few conversations with industry friends and many also reported seeing the changes pre-December 20th. Piecing it together is seems to have been something of a phased roll-out (as many are), by sector. Interesting that you noticed a difference with single token keywords. In fact that&#8217;s really interesting&#8230; do you happen to recall any of the other single token queries?</p>
<p>One other point &#8211; this hasn&#8217;t rolled out in all sectors. Gaming serps don&#8217;t seem to have changed.</p>
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		<title>By: James Lees</title>
		<link>http://www.themediaflow.com/2010/12/google-ranking-sub-pages-above-homepage-new-algo-update-hits-uk-shores/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>James Lees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I must say I did start noticing these changes a good few weeks before December 20th.

Especially for one word phrases such as beds.

But everything you have said I agree with totally.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say I did start noticing these changes a good few weeks before December 20th.</p>
<p>Especially for one word phrases such as beds.</p>
<p>But everything you have said I agree with totally.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Bleiweiss</title>
		<link>http://www.themediaflow.com/2010/12/google-ranking-sub-pages-above-homepage-new-algo-update-hits-uk-shores/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Bleiweiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 17:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nichola 

I agree completely - this drives home the now critical importance of quality content on deeper pages, and improved site architecture.  Topical focus separation, sub-navigation, breadcrumbs will all directly impact the results more than ever.  And personally, I&#039;m glad for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nichola </p>
<p>I agree completely &#8211; this drives home the now critical importance of quality content on deeper pages, and improved site architecture.  Topical focus separation, sub-navigation, breadcrumbs will all directly impact the results more than ever.  And personally, I&#8217;m glad for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nichola</title>
		<link>http://www.themediaflow.com/2010/12/google-ranking-sub-pages-above-homepage-new-algo-update-hits-uk-shores/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>Nichola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 14:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Craig - although quite informal, the research I&#039;ve done thus far and the conversations I&#039;ve had with others since this morning, seem to conclude that internal linking is little to no factor in this. It seems entirely dependent on site search. Therefore presence of KW in content.

@Dan - it seems as if this update applies to sites that are in certain sectors where a certain quality can be inferred, and that the change applies an appended search after-the-fact, using site search. In which case it doesn&#039;t seem that the URL is causal, but correlative i.e. the page on the site that contains most content about &quot;product x&quot; happens to be site.com/product-x

As mentioned above, informal conversations and intelligence swapping with others - tends to conclude that this seems to be very crude, and largely attributable to greatest number of mentions of KW per page [when site quality is already established.]

Can you share with me &quot;a few changes to the optimisation have been made&quot;... etc. If not here then perhaps by DM and let&#039;s see what we can put together.
It would be my guess that you changed the on-page content quite heavily, possibly using synonyms/antonyms as opposed to exact KW on the usurping page???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Craig &#8211; although quite informal, the research I&#8217;ve done thus far and the conversations I&#8217;ve had with others since this morning, seem to conclude that internal linking is little to no factor in this. It seems entirely dependent on site search. Therefore presence of KW in content.</p>
<p>@Dan &#8211; it seems as if this update applies to sites that are in certain sectors where a certain quality can be inferred, and that the change applies an appended search after-the-fact, using site search. In which case it doesn&#8217;t seem that the URL is causal, but correlative i.e. the page on the site that contains most content about &#8220;product x&#8221; happens to be site.com/product-x</p>
<p>As mentioned above, informal conversations and intelligence swapping with others &#8211; tends to conclude that this seems to be very crude, and largely attributable to greatest number of mentions of KW per page [when site quality is already established.]</p>
<p>Can you share with me &#8220;a few changes to the optimisation have been made&#8221;&#8230; etc. If not here then perhaps by DM and let&#8217;s see what we can put together.<br />
It would be my guess that you changed the on-page content quite heavily, possibly using synonyms/antonyms as opposed to exact KW on the usurping page???</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Bell</title>
		<link>http://www.themediaflow.com/2010/12/google-ranking-sub-pages-above-homepage-new-algo-update-hits-uk-shores/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 14:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really in-depth write up on a subject I have been looking into for a number of clients, all who have been &#039;affected&#039; by this change.

In the first client, they rank on the first page for a competitive term and their homepage has been replaced with the relevant sub-page which is fantastic for conversions or at least appears so with the little data available.  

However, they are the only site on the 1st page where Google is listing the sub-page as opposed to the homepage which seems strange as many of the other sites are totally themed around this specific keyword.

Any thoughts ??

In the second client, an inner page had replaced the homepage for their main keyword, however it was not the ideal landing page as the site structure meant that Google had picked a specific product, rather than say a category landing page which in theory is &#039;more&#039; relevant&#039; to the user.

A few changes to the optimisation have been made with the intention of trying to steer Google to the page we would ideally like to see appear in the Google.  In a short space of time, Google has already recognised the changes and the client now has the &#039;correct&#039; page ranking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really in-depth write up on a subject I have been looking into for a number of clients, all who have been &#8216;affected&#8217; by this change.</p>
<p>In the first client, they rank on the first page for a competitive term and their homepage has been replaced with the relevant sub-page which is fantastic for conversions or at least appears so with the little data available.  </p>
<p>However, they are the only site on the 1st page where Google is listing the sub-page as opposed to the homepage which seems strange as many of the other sites are totally themed around this specific keyword.</p>
<p>Any thoughts ??</p>
<p>In the second client, an inner page had replaced the homepage for their main keyword, however it was not the ideal landing page as the site structure meant that Google had picked a specific product, rather than say a category landing page which in theory is &#8216;more&#8217; relevant&#8217; to the user.</p>
<p>A few changes to the optimisation have been made with the intention of trying to steer Google to the page we would ideally like to see appear in the Google.  In a short space of time, Google has already recognised the changes and the client now has the &#8216;correct&#8217; page ranking.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Killick</title>
		<link>http://www.themediaflow.com/2010/12/google-ranking-sub-pages-above-homepage-new-algo-update-hits-uk-shores/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Killick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 13:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good overview of the change Nichola. I haven&#039;t seen any dramatic effects on any client sites as we tend to go for longer tail search terms. That said, I agree that with the overall content of a site is becoming more and more important.

It will also be interesting to see if Google can distinguish between quality content pages and Blog pages, more-so for the company / organisation whose website it is. I guess a good internal linking structure can overcome this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good overview of the change Nichola. I haven&#8217;t seen any dramatic effects on any client sites as we tend to go for longer tail search terms. That said, I agree that with the overall content of a site is becoming more and more important.</p>
<p>It will also be interesting to see if Google can distinguish between quality content pages and Blog pages, more-so for the company / organisation whose website it is. I guess a good internal linking structure can overcome this?</p>
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